so many interesting things from Herb in my email. This one projects Herb's persona according to the Man HIMSELF. He listen to this when he was 6. "Mr Grump and the Dingle School Band" https://archive.org/details/78_mr-grump-and-the-dingle-school-band_norman-rose-mohaupt-molarsky_gbia0030983/01+-+Mr.+Grump+and+the+Dingle+School+Band+-+Norman+Rose.flac

Herb's response. when I said I listened to it....

yessss, I actually sent this so you would be alerted how to better handle me . ..